It is only possible to accept that the picture above is an image of what Christ intended His church to be if one has become divorced from the truth. To be divorced from the truth is the definition of the word apostasy.
II Thessalonians 2:1-3
Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Yahshua Christ, and our gathering together to Him, that you may not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first...
The apostles testified that the church would become divorced from the truth BEFORE the coming of our Lord Yahshua the Messiah, and our gather together to Him. How did a group of humble Jewish fishermen, and the early church that first gathered in Jerusalem, become so transformed as to no longer be recognized as humble men and women despised and rejected of men? How did the church come to adorn themselves with all the rich and proud trappings of pagan religion? The answer is found in the practice of syncretism.
If one studies the Bible with the greatest diligence, they will find no mention of the apostles or disciples of The Way ever putting on rich garments. They will find no mention of the church building cathedrals, proud monuments of opulence and ease. They will not find any mention of monks, nuns, or a clergy/laity separation. You will not find in the Scriptures any connection between the church of Christ and miters, prayer beads, monasteries, rich necklaces and jewels, purple and scarlet robes, or chalices. However, you will find these very things mentioned in the apostle John’s description of an apostate church that is figured as a Great Harlot riding upon a Scarlet Beast.
Revelation 17:1-6
And one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, "Come here, I shall show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality." And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality, and upon her forehead a name was written, a mystery, "BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus. And when I saw her, I wondered greatly.
Pope Benedict and Cardinals “Adorned in Scarlet and Purple”
“Having in Her Hand a Gold Cup of Abominations...”
I have written elsewhere of the origin of many Catholic and “Christian” practices. I will include a passage here from the writing Deconstructing Babylon.
The Catholic Church practiced syncretism. This is the practice of seeking to merge, or reconcile, various conflicting beliefs. When Constantine declared Rome to be a Christian Empire, there was a huge number of pagan practitioners throughout the empire. Constantine was himself a Sun worshiper, and the highest holy days of Sun worship were at the end of December when the Sun had passed through the shortest day of the year and was beginning to assert its ascendancy once more. This was where Christmas originated. Rome merged the worship of Deus Sol Invictus (unconquered Sun god) with Christianity, and it became a perverse mixture of pagan and Christian teachings.
It was through the merger of Sun worship and Christianity that the day of worship was moved to Sun-day. Every day of the week in our Roman calendar is devoted to a different pagan deity:
Sun-day: the Sun
Mon-day: the Moon
Tues-day: Tiews (The Nordic equivalent of Mars)
Wednes-day: Woden (equivalent to Mercury)
Thurs-day: Thor (Equivalent to Jupiter)
Fri-day: Freya (Equivalent to Venus and Aphrodite)
Satur-day: Saturn
Because Constantine was a Sun worshiper, he moved all worship to Sunday, forbidding Christians and Jews to worship on the Sabbath. Today the church has been so indoctrinated into this practice that they refer to Sunday as the Sabbath day. This is but one more example of the corruptions of Babylon.
The corruptions of Christianity due to its merger with Sun worship are many, and few realize the extent of them. Many Christians speak of “Sun-day worship” and “Sun-day school,” not realizing the origin and meaning of what it is they are saying. Even depictions of the Christ bear the marks of Sun worship.
This picture is easily mistaken as a painting of Christ. It is actually a painting of Apollo. The “solar halo,” also called a nimbus, was very common in depictions of deities that were related to the Sun and Sun worship. Due to Catholicism’s deep ties to Sun worship, symbols of the Sun are found in profusion.
This is a picture of the Pope carrying what is very obviously an image of the Sun. The sacrament of the Mass observed by Catholics is rife with Sun images. Even the wafer that is supposed to represent the body of Christ is in the shape of a solar disk. It is this which is held in the center of the image above.
These solar wafers were used in the observance of pagan rites. In contrast, at the Passover supper the Lord took unleavened bread and BROKE if. He did not carve it into neat little circles that resemble the Sun and pass it out to His disciples and say “This is My body broken for you. Eat this in remembrance of Me.” Nor did they mark this observance on Sun-day. (I am not advocating that Christians should return to a legal observance of the Sabbath which begins at sundown on Friday and runs until sundown on Saturday. The book of Acts reveals that the believers were meeting every day of the week. I share this to point out the influence upon pagan Sun worship in both the Catholic and Protestant churches today.)
The tonsure haircut worn by monks is also related to Sun worship. The haircut marks the circuit of the Sun in the heavens. Did you ever read about monks in the Scriptures? Monks and monasteries were also borrowed from pagan religion.
It is not hard to understand that numerous other corruptions were arrived at through the practice of syncretism. The fish symbol had long been employed in pagan religions. It was a symbol of Venus as well as Bacchus. In The Two Babylons, Alexander Hyslop writes, "Icthus, or the Fish, was one of the names of Bacchus." Bacchus was another name for Tammuz, the Sun-deity.
The worship of the fish deity is found in Scripture as we read of Dagon, the fish god of the Philistines.
The priests of Dagon wore fish shaped hats.
It is from this that the Catholics obtained the Mitre. Note that this priest of Dagon is sprinkling water, just like the Catholics do in their rituals.
Pope Benedict XVI with fish god Mitre on his head.
Bust of John Paul II
Did you ever stop to question where the Catholic Church gets all of its costumes and symbols? The Catholics say they trace the lineage of the popes back to Peter. Did you ever read of Peter dressing up in such garb? I tell you the answer is NO! Peter would not have dressed in the clothes of a pagan priest in order to declare the gospel of Christ.
These things are abominations. God clearly told His people to not form images to represent Him.
Deuteronomy 4:15-18
So watch yourselves carefully, since you did not see any form on the day Yahweh spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire, so that you do not act corruptly and make a graven image for yourselves in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the sky, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water below the earth.
Regarding the appearance of the Ichthus symbol in Christianity, Alexander Hyslop writes:
About the very time that the Bishop of Rome was invested with the pagan title of Pontifex, the Savior began to be called Ichthys, or “the Fish,” thereby identifying Him with Dagon, or the fish-god; and that, ever since, advancing step by step, as circumstances would permit, what has gone under the name of the worship of Christ, has just been the worship of that same Babylonian divinity, with all its rites and pomp and ceremonies, precisely as in ancient Babylon.
[Source: The Two Babylons, page 370]
Is it not remarkable that the Catholic church eats fish every Friday? Where did this custom come from? It is not hard to discover. The Romans worshiped Aphrodite Salacia. As we observed already, Freya was the Scandinavian equivalent of Aphrodite. Aphrodite Salacia was a fertility goddess. The worshipers of Aphrodite ate fish on Fridays and engaged in orgies. Fish is considered an “aphrodisiac.” Also from the name of Aphrodite Salacia we get the word “salacious,” which is defined as “intended to arouse people sexually.”
The Catholics, with their practice of syncretism, have simply absorbed all of the practices of pagan religions. They often seek to give the pagan practices some “Christian” justification, but God is appalled at the mixing of the holy and the profane together. His Spirit cries out, “Come out of her My people, lest you participate in her sins and partake of her plagues.”
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Recently, as I had the blessing of spending some time with some Christian brothers in jail, one of these men told me of his conversion from Islam. This man related that while he was a Muslim that material was frequently handed around by the Muslims that pointed to Christianity’s pagan roots. The Muslims clearly recognized that many symbols, rites and doctrines from numerous pagan religions (all traceable back to Babylon) had been incorporated into Christianity. This information was used by the Muslims to denigrate Christianity, depicting it as merely an amalgamation of many pagan practices.
Tragically, what the Muslims have testified is true as one looks at what is purported to be Christianity today. This Christian brother had been raised as a Christian, but had converted to Islam while in prison because of the protection it afforded him. He mentioned how it disturbed him to hear the Muslims speak of the origin of such things as Christmas and Easter, of Sunday worship, and the multitude of things that have been merged into that original faith practiced by Christ and His apostles.
I mentioned that the SuperBowl 44 served as a testimony of the Sun Worshipers who are depicted as Saints achieving a victory over God’s people. The SuperBowl was held in SUN Life Stadium in the SUNshine State and was held on a SUNday. The New Orleans Saints come from one of the most densely Catholic areas of the country, and Catholicism has embraced a myriad of images and practices that go back to Babylonian Sun worship.
Catholic Sacrament in India
Sacramental Wafer (Solar Disk of Tammuz) With Crown and Tau Symbol at Top Representing Tammuz, King of Heaven
The photo above was taken by me at the oldest Roman Catholic church in Macon, Georgia, St. Joseph’s Catholic Church. This shrine outside the church contains the Pyramid and All Seeing Eye of Freemasonry (note the sunburst behind the cross.) It includes the cross, which is a symbol of Tammuz, who is Nimrod reborn, the god of the Sun. This is signified also by the solar burst behind the Tau-cross. It has an image of Mary, who is modeled after Semiramis, the Queen of Heaven, the mother of Tammuz and wife of Nimrod.
Macon is the French word for Mason. Both Freemasonry and Roman Catholicism trace their roots back to Babylon. The city of Macon was laid out by its Masonic founders after the street design of ancient Babylon, a fact attested on the local Chamber of Commerce website.
When one has their eyes opened to see the incredible influence of Babylon, brought into the church through the cunning of the great deceiver Satan, it is found everywhere. It is for this reason that the Spirit is calling out to the people of God today to come out of Babylon.
Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, that you may not participate in her sins and that you may not receive of her plagues...
Note: For a further exploration of Freemasonry and its Babylonian roots, I recommend the presentation found at the following link:
http://www.heart4god.ws/id546.htm
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And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.
~Matt 16: 18-19
Christ's peace to you. The mitre symbolizes the flame at Pentacost which settled over the Apostle's heads. The rays from the monstrance which contains the Holy Eucharist symbolizes the presence of Christ, we believe. I pray all Christians are led to the truth.
Dear Anonymous,
You wrote:
"The mitre symbolizes the flame at Pentacost which settled over the Apostle's heads. The rays from the monstrance which contains the Holy Eucharist symbolizes the presence of Christ, we believe. I pray all Christians are led to the truth."
The practice of Satan evidenced both in Freemasonry and in Roman Catholicism is to take a symbol of something profane, or perverse, and supply an alternate identification to it.
The apostles and the early church knew nothing of the monstrance or the use of solar images in their worship of Christ. These things are very evident in pagan cults that worship the Sun and various Babylonian deities.
I have demonstrated clearly this practice in Freemasonry, showing that in a Masonic Bible the Temple of Solomon is depicted as a Babylonian Ziggurat (the Tower of Babel). Calling the Tower of Babel the Temple of Solomon does not make it so. It is still an item of idolatry that Yahweh judged. The same is true of the myriad of pagan traditions the Catholic Church has adopted.
I encourage you to look over the presentation on Freemasonry to see this principle of Satan in use.
http://www.heart4god.ws/id546.htm
Joseph, I enjoy reading your blogs for the insights I gain. However, your statement that Constantine was responsible for moving the day of worship from the Sabbath to Sunday is perhaps suspect as we see evidence of this move to the first day of the week or the Lord's day already occuring in the first century church with particular reference to Acts 20:7 and 1 Cor 16:1. Moreover, the first day of the week seems to be emphasized by the Gospel writers in connection with the discovery of the empty tomb, Jesus' appearances and his meetings with his disciples on that day. One could conclude then that meeting on the first day of the week rather than on the traditional Sabbath was the early church's way of recognizing the resurrection of Jesus and his being superior to the Sabbath. Can you please clarify? Thank you.
The question on the move to Sunday worship is an excellent one. Let me clarify that I am not stating that Constantine was the one who made such a change official. There were legal prohibitions forbidding the Jews and Christians to worship on the Sabbath prior to Constantine. He did, however, issue an edict in 321 A.D. establishing Sunday as a day of rest dedicated to worship, and he was a Sun worshiper.
Please know that I have never advocated that the saints must meet on a specific day. Acts 4 relates that the saints were meeting "daily." Yet, the practice of meeting in the synagogues on the Sabbath (Saturday) was of such longstanding tradition that the early church, which arose among the Jewish people, continued to meet on that day. We read many references of the apostles teaching in the synagogues on the Jewish Sabbath.
Regarding Acts 20:7 and I Corinthians 16:2, I am not a Greek scholar, but I have read some who knew the language who say these passages are mistranslated. The actual reading is not, "on the first day of the week," but rather, "on one Sabbath."
If you have access to an Interlinear Greek and English Bible, you will find that certain words have been added to these verses, and Strong's Concordance does verify that this Greek word "Sabbaton" that is rendered as "week" in many English versions, does mean "Sabbath."
Regardless, I am not suggesting that there is only one day of the week suitable for the church to meet and worship. I would contend from Scriptures that the Sabbath has ALWAYS been the seventh day of the week, and God has NEVER changed the definition of Sabbath.
May you be blessed with peace and understanding in these days.
Brother Joseph,
It's obvious that you've hit some raw nerves with this series. The many questions this subject raises will require months(if not years) of Blogs. One can "debate" these things back and forth for ever, all the time creating much ill will. AGAIN I SAY,UNLESS FATHER AND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OPENS A PERSON'S MIND AND CONVICTS THEM OF THESE ERRORS THEY WILL NOT AND CANNOT COME OUT OF RELIGIOUS BABYLON. However,these things do need to be taught so that Holy Spirit can convict those who are the chosen elect. Keep on keeping on.
Grace be with you. ARisingSon
Brother Joseph,
Does your presence here indicate you received the guidance and power you were seeking from Father?
Grace be with you. ARisingSon
He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven. And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
Matt 16:15-19
The revelation of "the Christ" the Son of the living God given by our heavenly Father by His Holy Spirit is the solid rock foundation upon which the true church of God is built. Each true son of promise has this revealed unto him in his quickened spirit by the one work that only Jesus Christ is capable of doing. This is,was, and will be the purpose of His coming for to bring many sons to God.
Paul warned of another gospel or another Jesus being preached which was not by revelation of Jesus Christ.
But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. Gal 1:11-12
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him 2Co 11:4
And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us(all true believers) kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Rev 1:5-6
I was raised in the Roman Catholic religion from my youth. At one time I had thought of being a Priest. Later on in my youth the old man took charge in his rebellious ways so I came to understand first hand what it is to be lost and a child of the evil one. My path in life has been down the road of many religions and self reforms with all ending in no true peace or true lasting change. It did not matter what name or label it came under such as Catholic,Baptist,Methodist, Pentecostal, Assemblies of God and even AA.
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True change came with the truth of the gospel revelation from God of Jesus Christ.
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Gal 2:20
I had to come out of the world and then babylon as I heard Him call me to follow . This is where peace and understanding has come.
Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come. By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name. Heb 13:12-15
Religious labels such as Catholic, Protestant and the many denomination (demoniations)are from the carnal mind which is hostile to God. Christ is not divided.
I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. Eph 4:1-7
Therefore if any man be in Christ,he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 2Co 5:17
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.Gal 6:15
To all who are still in babylon; who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,.
We do not abort you but pray that your life in Christ may come forth as Lazrus form the grave. We (true brothers) are here to help remove the grave cloths as we have had them removed from us. Merciful are those who have received mercy to His praise.
My prayer Lord Jesus is for eyes to be opened,the lame to be healed and to see the dead in spirit to be raised to the new life born from above by your Holy Spirit and to be seated with us in the heavenly to the praise and glory of our Holy Father.
Brother In Christ
Kenny Higdon
klkd11@att.net
To ARisingSon,
You stated:
"One can "debate" these things back and forth for ever, all the time creating much ill will. AGAIN I SAY,UNLESS FATHER AND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OPENS A PERSON'S MIND AND CONVICTS THEM OF THESE ERRORS THEY WILL NOT AND CANNOT COME OUT OF RELIGIOUS BABYLON. However,these things do need to be taught so that Holy Spirit can convict those who are the chosen elect. Keep on keeping on."
I suppose the same could have been said to Christ and His apostles. Once one begins to set forth truth, and to expose error, there will be some who would debate endlessly without ever being converted.
Nevertheless, the truth must be shared. I have often commented that the Spirit of Christ is focused primarily upon a ministry to the few at this season. The Father's eye is upon a firstfruits company that needs to come to maturity at this time. It is for such ones that the truth is declared.
It is not my intention to convert those who are incapable of being converted, nor those who are resisting the grace of God. I am setting forth food for the spiritually hungry. Let such ones as may come and partake freely of it.
To ARisingSon,
You wrote:
"Brother Joseph,
Does your presence here indicate you received the guidance and power you were seeking from Father?"
No. The fact that I am back posting these writings only indicates that the Spirit of Christ told me that I am to share these things with His people at this time. I am continuing in prayer for the guidance and power needed for the days ahead.
Brother Joseph,
Another observation, if I may. While coming out of Babylon Mystery Religion( Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Buddism, etc. etc.) is the primary area of life in which Father deals with His elect( so that we may come to know and worship The One True God) let us not lose sight of the fact that all aspects of our world are Satan inspired. Religion, commerce, education, science and the arts are all a babylon of man devised/Satan inspired unGodly systems. We are in the world BUT must come out of all of babylon. Grace be with you. ARisingSon
Taking your excellent anaylsis a little further, it easy to see the corruption that permeates through to the "protestant" churches as well. Since most protestant churches are basically offshoots of the Catholic Church or offshoots of one of the offshoots of the Catholic Church it is easy to see how corporate worship of the only true God and his Son has been corrupted.
I've always felt I was "picking on" the Catholic Church because of some of their more obvious corruptions of God's Word, so it's good to see it so plainly laid out. Sadly, it opens my eyes to the fact that even my Baptist corporate worship is tainted.
To some who have countered your research, I would remind everyone that Satan's oldest and most reliable trick to wrap lies around a nugget of truth. The truth gets your buy-in so you don't question the details as much, but it still deosn't mean they aren't lies.
I'm glad you're back and posting again. It's wonderful to see such insights!!
This is fascinating! Christian history, especially Byzantine, interests me. I'm a neo-pagan, and I was actually Googling "Venus-as-harlot", and my search linked to this blog, because of your Church-as-Babylon implications.
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
I MUST SAY THOUGH ASIDE FROM THAT THE REST OF YOUR RESEARCH I AGREE, THE CATHOLIC AND OTHER CHURCHES ARE FLOODED WITH PAGAN SYMBOLS AND WORSHIP AS WELL.
Hello Gary,
Thank you for your comment. Just so you know, writing something in all caps on the Internet is the equivalent of shouting. Many people view it as rude to do so. I would not want your communications to be misconstrued by others when I doubt that your intent was to shout.
In your comment you stated that the disciples did not worship Christ. I suppose that depends upon your definition of worship. Some examples that could be construed as worship are as follows:
Just before the crucifixion Mary, sister of Lazarus and Martha, broke open a jar of very expensive perfume, pure nard, and poured it over Yahshua's feet, wiping His feet with her hair. Judas commented that the value of the perfume was a year's wages. This was an act of worship. (Mark 14:3, John 12:3)
After the resurrection, Mary Magdalene fell at the feet of Yahshua and clung to Him in an act of deep love and devotion. (John 20:11 ff)
After the resurrection Thomas was astonished at the appearing of Christ and declared, "My Lord and My God!" (John 20:28)
Many such examples could be cited. To avoid the confusion of what is actual worship, however, we could look to a number of Scriptures that actually state that Christ's disciples worshiped Him.
Matthew 28:8-9
And they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy and ran to report it to His disciples. And behold, Yahshua met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and worshiped Him.
Matthew 28:16-17
But the eleven disciples proceeded to Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had designated. And when they saw Him, they worshiped Him...
Those are pretty straightforward declarations revealing that the disciples did worship Yahshua.
May you be blessed with peace and understanding in these days.
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