Wednesday, July 7, 2010

The Sun Will Be Darkened - Part Two

Joseph Herrin (07-07-2010)




















Path of Solar Eclipse August 1, 2008 (1st of Av)

Is not the Father signifying great things when He has a total solar eclipse occur on the earth three years in a row, falling on the same date of the Hebrew calendar? The improbability of these being chance occurrences (there is no such thing in Yahweh’s creation) becomes even more staggering as one realizes that the last two years of this seven year period (August 1, 2008 - September 28, 2015) contain four lunar eclipses (blood red moons) and two more solar eclipses, all falling on significant dates in the Jewish Calendar.

The Lunar eclipses break down as follows:

Passover April 15, 2014
Feast of Tabernacles October 8, 2014
Passover April 4, 2015
Feast of Tabernacles September 28, 2015

The Solar eclipses in 2014-2015 occur:

Adar 29/Nisan 1(new year) March 20, 2015
Feast of Trumpets September 13, 2015

Says J. R. Church, in a letter accompanying the magazine issue, “Four lunar eclipses occurring on the Feast of Tabernacles and Passover in two successive years are phenomenal. But add to them two solar eclipses on the two days that open the Jewish year – Adar 29/Nisan1, just two weeks before Passover, and Tishri 1 (Rosh Hashannah) – is uncanny. On each of these six Jewish Holy Days, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give her light. Will this happen again in the 21st century? No. Did it happen in the 20th century? Yes, in 1949/1950, the year following Israel’s statehood, and 1967/1968, the year Jerusalem was liberated in the Six-Day War! Before that, you have to go back to 1493 for four successive lunar eclipses on Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles” (May 2008 letter).
[Source: http://www.triumphpro.com/blood-red-lunar-eclipses-and-solar-eclipses.htm]

From August 1, 2008, the date of the first of the three total solar eclipses, to September 28, 2015, the date of the lunar eclipse on the Feast of Tabernacles, we have a seven year period or very remarkable heavenly signs. It is incumbent upon the sons of God to apply themselves to discerning what our Father in heaven is testifying through His heavenly scroll.

Peace and Safety

One need not look to the heavens to see signs that the hour of tribulation is now upon the earth. The following words of the apostle Paul have never seen a greater fulfillment than at this very hour. Please read them carefully.

I Thessalonians 5:1-6
Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like birth pangs upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day should overtake you like a thief; for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober.

A reader posted a comment to the blog today providing links to the G-8 and G-20 summits. Both of these international forums have as part of their meetings an emphasis on “Peace and Security.” This is a fulfillment of the prophetic words of Paul. While they are saying “Peace and Safety (Security)” THEN destruction will come upon the suddenly like birth pangs upon a woman. Following are excerpts and the links to the sites of these two international gatherings.

International Peace and Security
The G-8 has a solid record of providing leadership and action in responding to a range of international peace and security challenges including conflict, terrorism, weapons of mass destruction and transnational organized crime.

Peace and security issues will figure prominently at the G-8 in Muskoka as leaders discuss pressing security vulnerabilities, including terrorism, piracy, organized crime, trafficking in drugs, natural disasters and how regional conflicts can affect the security of all nations. The issues of nuclear non-proliferation will be of considerable interest to all leaders in light of continuing challenges in Iran and North Korea.

[Source: http://g8.gc.ca/for-media/other-services/media-briefing-books/priorities-for-the-g-8-summit-in-muskoka/]

Here in Toronto, the G-20 Summit will give global leaders the opportunity to discuss ways to restore the health of the global economy, and lay the foundations for strong, sustainable and balanced growth in the years ahead.
[Source: http://g20.gc.ca/address-by-minister-van-loan-at-munk-school-of-global-affairs-g-20-conference/]

It sounds like the nations are planning not only for peace and safety going forward, but also a renewal of global prosperity. People of God, the Spirit testifies that quite a different future lies ahead for the nations. Days of great tribulation are at hand. Are you attentive to the voice of the Spirit so that you may know what Yahweh would have you to do for yourself and your family to be properly positioned for coming days? Are you even entertaining the idea that He may call you to a radical obedience that your neighbors and Christian friends may deem to be fanatical?

The Spirit has testified to me that the things He has walked me through in the past 11 years are a pattern of that which His obedient people must experience in days ahead. In 1999 the Father called me to leave my employment as a computer professional and to look to Him for all the provision of my wife and children. We were directed to follow wherever He led, and to do whatever He said.

Many in the church declared me to be delusional, and even in great disobedience, yet we were directed faithfully by the Father and His provision was constantly manifested on our behalf. Miracles of provision occurred, many of which have been set down in the autobiographical book Evidence of Things Unseen. (You can read this book freely on the Heart4God website - just as soon as it is back online.)

I am hearing from brothers and sisters in Christ who are being directed at this hour to make great changes in their lives. Some are being led out from very good jobs to follow the Spirit wherever He leads. One brother was recently instructed by the Spirit to leave his home in the Los Angeles area and begin preparing a ranch he owns in a remote area for he and his wife to be able to move. Only those who are giving an attentive ear to the voice of the Spirit, coupled with a willing obedience, will avoid much loss and calamity that the Father would have delivered them from.

Discerning the Heavenly Signs

In previous posts on signs in the heavens I have testified that in order to understand a heavenly sign one must look at it in its context. Our Father is the One who established the stars in their courses, and Who formed the constellations that make up the heavenly testimony. Many Christians today have been conditioned to fear, or even despise, the witness of the heavens, associating their testimony with pagan astrology. Satan, however, has merely sought to corrupt that which Yahweh has established as a true witness.

If you have not read the previous post where I revealed the Scriptural basis for Christians to be attentive to heavenly signs, and to not fear them, I would recommend that you read it here:

http://parablesblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/message-in-heavens.html


The Scriptures themselves name numerous constellations, and Yahweh ascribed four purposes to the stars of the heavens. The first, and foremost purpose is that they are given for signs.

Genesis 1:14-15
Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so.

The birth of Christ was announced with signs in the heavens. Wise men who understood the true testimony of the heavens, saw the star in the East that gave testimony that the king of the Jews had been born, the long promised Messiah. They acted upon this witness and were led faithfully to the Son of God that they might worship Him.

Yahshua testified that before His return there would be more “signs in sun and moon and stars.” The child of God should therefore not despise that testimony that Yahweh has established. They should seek to move past the fear of Satanic corruptions, while pressing in to discern Yahweh’s true testimony.

There are three books in my possession that have been very helpful in my own study of the heavenly testimony. They are as follows:

The Gospel in the Stars by Joseph A. Seiss
The Heavens Declare by William D. Banks
The Witness of the Stars by E. W. Bullinger

This last book can be read freely online.

http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/

All three of the authors cited above refer to the voluminous research conducted by Frances Rolleston. Her writing titled Mazzaroth, or the Constellations can also be accessed online.

http://philologos.org/__eb-mazzaroth/

To discern the meaning of a heavenly sign, one must understand the message contained in the heavens at the location which the sign occurs. For example, in the last post I mentioned that an eclipse of a full moon occurred while the Moon was in Virgo and the Sun was in Pisces. Understanding this gives needed details to discern the meaning of the sign.

In looking into the three total solar eclipses occurring in 2008, 2009, and 2010 I have understood that they occur in the following constellations.

Total Solar Eclipse August 1, 2008


The Solar Eclipse on August 1, 2008 occurs at 9°32' of Leo.

Total Solar Eclipse July 22, 2009


The Solar Eclipse on July 22, 2009 occurs at 29°27’ degrees of Cancer.

Total Solar Eclipse July 11, 2010


The Solar Eclipse of July 11, 2010 occurs at 19°24' of Cancer.

























As one can see from the graphic above, Cancer and Leo are the last two constellations of the heavenly Zodiac (Hebrew Mazzaroth). The word Zodiac, according to some, means “animal sign.” Frances Rolleston differs with this origin of the word. She writes: “Those who derive zodiac from Zao, to live, as composed of living creatures, instead of from the primitive root Zoad, way, going on by steps, not only overlook the balance in Libra, but the vase for Aquarius, and the bow for Sagittarius...” Mrs. Rolleston contends that the word originally was intended to denote a way, or path followed by steps. The Hebrew word equivalent for Zodiac, is Mazzaroth. The word is recorded as having been spoken by God in the book of Job.

Job 38:31-33
Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, or loose the belt of Orion? Can you bring out Mazzaroth in its season? Or can you guide the Great Bear with its cubs? Do you know the ordinances of the heavens? Can you set their dominion over the earth?

Unfortunately, most Bible translators have very little education in the heavenly host and its ancient testimony. They have therefore rendered certain constellations according to their corrupted pagan forms, rather than the originals that Yahweh intended. It takes some study to delve back to the original testimony established by Yahweh. That the constellation Cancer is depicted as a Crab is unfortunate, for its more authentic original appears to be the scarab that begins life as a worm, then transforms into a winged beetle, following a metamorphosis similar to that of the caterpillar into a butterfly. Two of the decans (minor constellations) associated with Cancer are Ursa Minor and Ursa Major, the Lesser Bear, and the Greater Bear. These are also corruptions, for these constellations in antiquity were not featured as bears, but rather as sheepfolds, a fact to which the names of the stars in the constellations attest.

The Mazzaroth by Degrees

You will note that the graphic of the major signs above is arranged in the shape of a circle, or a wheel. This relates to the course of the Sun in the heavens. The sun travels along a circuit known as the ecliptic. The sum of degrees of any circle is 360. Since there are 12 major signs along the circle, each one is allotted 30 degrees.

Each major constellation has three minor constellations associated with it. These three minor constellations are all allotted ten degrees, by which they derive their name “decans.” Thus, each constellation actually has four constellations associated with it; a major constellation, and three minor constellations known as decans.

Following is a table listing the decans for each constellation, and the degrees they occupy in their respective groups.




















With this information in hand, we can determine the context for each of the three solar eclipses by looking at the constellation and decan in which they occurred. Interestingly, each of the occurrences were positioned in the last degree of its particular decan. You will note that each one is marked by the number 9, a number denoting judgment.

Total Solar Eclipse August 1, 2008

August 1, 2008 occurs at 9°32' of Leo. Leaving Hydra, entering Crater.

Total Solar Eclipse July 22, 2009

July 22, 2009 occurs at 29°27’ degrees of Cancer. In Argo.

Total Solar Eclipse July 11, 2010

July 11, 2010 occurs at 19°24' of Cancer. Leaving Ursa Major, Entering Argo.

Let us begin with the first eclipse of August 1, 2008.

Sign of Leo, Decan of Hydra and Crater

E.W. Bullinger shares the following information on these constellations.

Here we come to the end of the circle. We began with VIRGO, and we end with LEO. No one who has followed our interpretation can doubt that we have here the solving of the Riddle of the Sphinx. For its Head is VIRGO and its Tail is LEO!

In LEO we reach the end of the Revelation as inspired in the Word of God; and it is the end as written in the heavens.

[End Quote]

So here we have a great sign in the heavens in the constellation that marks the end of Yahweh’s work of redemption among mankind. Truly we are at the time of the end. We therefore observe the Father drawing the attention of those who are looking to the heavens to the fact that the time of the end is now upon them.

Bullinger continues...

In the Denderah Zodiac he is treading upon a serpent (Hydra), as shown in Mr Edward Cooper's Egyptian Scenery.

Its Egyptian name is Pi Mentekeon, which means the pouring out. This is no pouring out or inundation of the Nile, but it is the pouring out of the cup of Divine wrath on that Old Serpent.


This is the one great truth of the closing chapter of this last Book. It is


THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH AROUSED FOR THE RENDING OF THE PREY.


His feet are over the head of Hydra, the great Serpent, and just about to descend upon it and crush it.

[End Quote]

For those Christians excited to learn of the nearness of Christ’s judgment upon Satan and all his works, the following Scripture should be kept in mind.

I Peter 4:17-19
For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved, what will become of the godless man and the sinner? Therefore, let those also who suffer according to the will of God entrust their souls to a faithful Creator in doing what is right.

The people of God must also pass through days of tribulation. It will be “with difficulty” that the righteous is saved. Let all Yahweh’s people put on a heart of humility as they approach these final days. What will Yahshua accomplish as He rouses Himself up at this hour as The Lion of the Tribe of Judah? We read of His end-time work in the following Scriptures.

Genesis 49:8-9
"Thy hand shall be on the neck of thine enemies;... Judah is a lion's whelp; From the prey, my son, thou art gone up. He stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?"

Numbers 24:8-9
"He shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows, He couched, he lay down as a lion, and as a great lion; who shall stir him up?"

Amos 3:4, 8
"Will a lion roar in the forest when he hath no prey? Will a young lion cry out of his den, if he hath taken nothing?... The lion hath roared, who will not fear?"

The prophet Amos has testified of the days at hand. Those Christians who declare with satisfied smugness that they are looking forward to the Day of Yahweh, believing they will be raptured out, and only the godless nations will be subjected to tribulation, need head the prophet’s words.

Amos 5:18-20
Alas, you who are longing for the day of Yahweh, for what purpose will the day of Yahweh be to you? It will be darkness and not light; As when a man flees from a lion, and a bear meets him, or goes home, leans his hand against the wall, and a snake bites him. Will not the day of Yahweh be darkness instead of light, even gloom with no brightness in it?

The hour is at hand when the Lion of Judah will roar. Many will flee, but they will not be able to escape. Those sons of God who discern the hour should be sober and vigilant, clothing themselves in humility and righteousness.

Zephaniah 2:3
Seek Yahweh, all you humble of the earth who have carried out His ordinances; Seek righteousness, seek humility. Perhaps you will be hidden in the day of the Lord's anger.

Let us pass on to look at the decan of Crater.















Constellation Crater - The Cup Poured Out

Bullinger writes the following concerning this constellation.

The Cup of Divine Wrath Poured Out

Psalm 75:8
"God is the Judge. He putteth down one, and setteth up another, FOR IN THE HAND OF THE LORD THERE IS A CUP, and the wine is red; it is full of mixture, and He poureth out of the same: But the dregs thereof, all the wicked of the earth shall wring them out and drink them."

Psalm 11:6
"Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and a horrible tempest: THIS SHALL BE THE PORTION OF THEIR CUP."

This is no fabled wine-cup of Bacchus; but it is "The cup of His indignation" (Rev 14:10); "The cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath" (Rev 16:19). This is what we see set forth in this constellation. The Cup is wide and deep, and fastened on by the stars to the very body of the writhing serpent. The same stars which are in the foot of the Cup form part of the body of Hydra, and are reckoned as belonging to both constellations.

This Cup has the significant number of thirteen stars (the number of Apostacy). The two stars - Al Ches (a), which means the Cup, and (b) - determine the bottom of the Cup.
[End Quote]

I am mindful that as one speaks of a cup of divine wrath that a Scripture and a prophecy have been much in my mind of late. The Scripture relates to the Great Harlot, Babylon, and those people of God who have entered her embrace. There is a harlot church at this hour that refuses all suffering. She declares, “I will not know mourning.” She lives for pleasure and sensuality, yet Yahweh who judges her is strong. He will pour out His plagues upon her in this hour, and all His people who remain in her will partake of them. It is time to heed the call to come out of Babylon.

Revelation 18:4-9
Come out of her, my people, that you may not participate in her sins and that you may not receive of her plagues; for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Pay her back even as she has paid, and give back to her double according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix twice as much for her. To the degree that she glorified herself and lived sensuously, to the same degree give her torment and mourning; for she says in her heart, 'I sit as a queen and I am not a widow, and will never see mourning.' For this reason in one day her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the Lord God who judges her is strong.

A cup is being poured out. Both the nations and the apostate church will drink up the judgment of Yahweh.

What is signified by a total solar eclipse occurring in this constellation on the Hebrew Date of the 1st of Av? The 1st of Av falls toward the center of a three week period of infamy in Jewish history. For three weeks the Jews mourn. These days are known as “the dire straits.” They conclude on the 9th of Av, a day in which great judgments and terrible calamities have befallen the people of God. Following is a summary of some of the events that have occurred on this date taken from an Internet website:

Tisha b’Av (9th of Av)

It was on this day of the Hebrew Calendar in 586 BC that Solomon’s Temple was destroyed. It was on that day in 70 AD that the second (Herod’s) Temple was destroyed and on it goes.

August 4, 135 AD (9th of Av), the Bar Kochba revolt was crushed by the Roman Emperor Hadrian. Over 100,000 Jews were slaughtered; Jerusalem was plowed under and later rebuilt as a pagan city forbidden to Jews.

Pope Urban II declared the First Crusade. Tens of thousands of Jews were killed, and many Jewish communities were obliterated.

July 25, 1290 [9 Av 5050] marked the first nation-wide rejection of Jews when the official decree expelling them from England was signed.

In 1492, [9 Av 5252] King Ferdinand of Spain issued the expulsion decree, setting Tish B’Av as the final date by which not a single Jew would be allowed to walk on Spanish soil.

August 6, 1555 [9 Av, 5315] Jews were first ordered into a ghetto when the Jews of Rome were ordered to live in a district near the Tiber.

August 1, 1914 [9 Av, 5674] W.W. I broke out on when Germany declared war on Russia. German resentment from the war set the stage for the Holocaust. A total solar eclipse occurred on August 21st of that year. (This agrees with the theory that solar eclipses occurring within the proximity of Tish B’ Av effect gentile nations more than Israel which bases their dates on a lunar calendar).

August 2, 1941 [9 Av 5701] Reinhardt Heydrich was ordered to carry out the “final solution” on European Jewry.

August 14, 2005 [9 Av 5765] 8,000 Jewish settlers were forcefully expelled from their homes in Gush Katif, the Southern Gaza strip.

That brings us up to the current trifecta of TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSES that occur around the 1st of Av on each of the year’s 2008, 2009 and 2010.
[Source: http://thefundidriveby.blogspot.com/2009/07/total-solar-eclipse-and-ninth-of-av.html]

Observing that judgment upon the nations is signified, what occurred soon after this solar eclipse? On Rosh Hashanah - The Blowing of the Trumpet on September 29, 2008 the Dow Jones Industrials experienced their greatest single day point decline in history. The Stock Market fell 777 points, equating to 7% of the market’s value, and losing an estimated $700 billion dollars in value. These sevens denote the time of the end.

The sign in the heavens had been given. The trumpet had sounded. Yet this is just the beginning of the birth pangs. A sudden collapse will occur when people are saying peace and safety and predicting a return to prosperity.

Let me now conclude this teaching with a look at the final two solar eclipses that occurred in Cancer. E.W. Bullinger writes the following concerning Cancer and its decans.

Sign of Cancer, Decans of Ursa Major and Argo

With regard to the sign of CANCER, one thing is certain, that we have not got the original picture, or anything like it.

It does not agree with the names either of its three constellations which have come down to us, or of its stars.


In the ancient Denderah Zodiac it is represented as a Scarabaeus, or sacred beetle.* In the Zodiac of Esneh and in a Hindu Zodiac (400 BC) it is the same.


* The Scarabaeus, passing its early existence as a worm of the earth, and thence issuing as a winged denizen of heaven, was held sacred by the Egyptians as an emblem of the resurrection of the body...


The Denderah name is Klaria, or the cattle-folds, and in this name we have the key to the meaning of the sign, and to the subject of this chapter.


The Arabic name is Al Sartan, which means who holds or binds, and may be from the Hebrew to bind together (Gen 49:11). There is no ancient Hebrew word known for the crab. It was classed with many other unclean creatures, and would be included in the general term "vermin."


The Syriac, Sartano, means the same. The Greek name is Karkinos, which means holding or encircling, as does the Latin, Cancer, and hence is applied to the crab. In the word Khan, we have the traveller's rest or inn; while Ker or Cer is the Arabic for encircling. The ancient Akkadian name of the month is Su-kul-na, the seizer or possessor of seed.


The sign contains 83 stars, one of which is of the 3rd magnitude, and seven are of the 4th magnitude, and the remainder of inferior magnitudes.


In the centre of the Sign there is a remarkably bright cluster of stars, so bright that they can be sometimes seen with the naked eye. It looks like a comet, and is made up of a great multitude of stars. Modern astronomers have called it the Beehive. But its ancient name has come down to us as Praesepe, which means a multitude, offspring.


The brightest star, z (in the tail), is called Tegmine, holding. The star a (or a1 and a2), in the lower large claw, is called Acubene, which, in Hebrew and Arabic, means the sheltering or hiding-place. Another is named Ma'alaph (Arabic), assembled thousands; Al Himarein (Arabic), the kids or lambs.


North and south of the nebula Praesepe are two stars, which Orientalists speak of by a name evidently of some antiquity. Asellus means an Ass, and one was called Asellus Boreas, the northern Ass; while the other, Asellus Australis, is the southern Ass...


This connects it with the Tribe of Issachar, who is said to have borne upon the Tribal standard the sign of two asses.


This is doubtless the reference in Jacob's blessing (Gen 49:11, RV):


"Issachar is a strong ass, couching down between the sheepfolds; And he saw a resting-place that it was good; And the land that it was pleasant; And he bowed his shoulder to bear, and became a servant under task work."


Have we not here the gathering up of the teaching of this sign--


MESSIAH’S REDEEMED POSSESSION HELD FAST.


Here we come to the completion of His work. In CANCER we see it with reference to His redeemed, and in the next (the last) Sign, LEO, with reference to His enemies.


The three constellations develop the truth. What is now called Ursa Minor is the Lesser Flock; Ursa Major gives us The Sheepfold and the Sheep; while Argo, The Ship, shows the travellers and the pilgrims brought safely home--all conflict over.

[End Quote]

Cancer represents Yahweh’s redeemed held fast. The lesser sheepfold represents Israel. The greater sheepfold represents the Ekklesia, the called out from all nations. Argo is the ship representing the great journey of many trials that the redeemed of the Lord must experience.

People of God, the Spirit is declaring that the time of the end is at hand.

John 12:31
"Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world shall be cast out.”

The Spirit would lead me to close with the following words applied to this hour.

Revelation 12:12-17
"For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time." And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. And the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, in order that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. And the serpent (Hydra) poured water like a river out of his mouth (what do you get from a hydrant?) after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth. And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Yahshua.

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5 comments:

Stephen said...

Joseph,

Excellent blog...thank you for your faithfulness.

I have a question, and was hoping you could provide insight...i will also take it to the Lord.

The woman and their offspring...who specifically are they? Is the woman the overcoming church, being protected as satan is turned loose, and the offspring the believers that have not overcome but will be put through the fiery trial during this period?
Thank you again for your writing.
Steve

Joseph Herrin said...

Dear Stephen,

I have written somewhat on the topic you are inquiring about. You can find an indepth teaching in parts 1-3 of the series "The Ascension of the Manchild." Following is the link to part one.

http://parablesblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/ascension-of-manchild-part-1.html

In a nutshell, I believe the Manchild represents a forerunning group of overcomers who have been bearing the cross. These will follow the type of Joseph and Moses. They must ascend to the throne of God that they might be used to preserve alive a remnant in that hour.

The woman is the church. There are those who have not fully embraced the cross, nor a life of surrender to be led of the Spirit in all things. Yet in the hour spoken of in Revelation 12, many will embrace the call to entrust themselves fully in surrender to Yahweh, and they will pass through a wilderness experience.

The remainder of her seed "who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Yahshua" represents a third group. My mind naturally would see the church in three groups, following the pattern of the Tabernacle which had an Outer Court, a Holy Place, and the Most Holy Place. We see a similar division of three groups in the Feast days of Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles, and in the harvest of Barley, Wheat and Grapes. This pattern is seen in the disciples of Christ which were divided as the 12, the 3 and the 1 who reclined in Yahshua's breast. We also see the 30 fold, 60 fold and 100 fold believers spoken of in the gospels.

I do have some trouble arriving at the identity of this last group described in Revelation, however, due to the way in which they are described. They do not seem to fit the description of carnal Christians for they are described as keeping the commandments and holding to the testimony of Yahshua.

I will have to await further revelation from the Father before I am comfortable saying anything definitive about the identity of all three of these groups named.

Anonymous said...

Very neat post. I will probably have to read it a couple more times! The verse in Revelation is what brough my husband and I out of the institutional church. It was a lonely, isolated walk for some time and still to this day is so in that people just cannot see that the IC is in grave error.

While speaking with another sister in the LORD about a recent Word the LORD had given my husband and I, she lead me to Hebrews 12:2..who for the joy set before him endured the cross... She pointed out to me that JESUS knew the end, the joy that was to come, so HE endured. I too draw new found comforts from the Word as struggles come and go and as the LORD reveals things to me. When I am weak HE is strong. Hebrews 13: 5/6..Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you. So we say with confidence, The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?
FATHER, please strengthen YOUR bride! amen
Deirdre

Stuart said...

Hi Joseph,
In your reply to Stephen, you point out the significance of the number 3 throughout the Scripture with particular reference to the church also being possibly comprised of 3 groups. Accordingly, could there also be 3 "raptures/comings" that may also align with the 3 harvest festivals in the OT which correspond to the firstfruits, main harvest and the gleanings. In the NT, Paul appears to allude to an order of resurrection in 1 Cor 15:23 with (depending where one puts the comma) a firstfruits resurrection followed by another resurrection when He comes. Could this firstfruits resurrection be the "out-resurrecition/exanastasia" to which Paul himself hopes to attain in Phil 3:11?
If so, this would complement Luke 12:35-40 where the Master returns from the wedding looking for his servants to attend the wedding feast. The fact that the Master returns from the feast seems to indicate that the wedding has already taken place in heaven with believers--the firstfruits?--already being raptured. Thus the Bride of Christ is not the whole church but firstfruits believers who are "worthy" and ready. The Master returns again in the second and/or third watch with the admonishment to remain watching and be ready for his return which may correspond to the main harvest and gleanings.

Joseph Herrin said...

Dear Stuart,

The Bible does teach that there will be three resurrections. (The word rapture is not found in connection with this concept in Scripture.) I have written of this at the following link:

http://www.heart4god.ws/id666.htm

I have also shared additional teaching on this subject in recent messages spoken to groups as I am traveling. These audio files should be available in the near future.

An additional point of evidence not found in the linked writing above is that in Revelation chapter 14 there are three resurrections portrayed. The first is the "firstfruits" overcomers who stand with Christ in Mount Zion. These equate to Passover and the Barley Harvest. The firstfruits brought in at this time were anointed with oil, thus these are the "anointed firstfruits." (Revelation 14:1-5)

The next resurrection is shown in verses 14-16.

The last resurrection in verses 17-20.

It should be noted that this finds a perfect correspondence to the Feasts and Harvests, for the last Feast is Tabernacles where the grapes are harvested. These are the enemies of Yahweh trodden under foot.